Game Thread: Argos vs. REDBLACKS Sunday June 29 7:00 PM

[Scooter McCray]

Both teams have injury problems. Whoever gets more of their guys back this week may have the advantage.

[paulwoods13]

Kelly was limited in practice today. I doubt he will play.

[OV Argo]

Is Dru Brown going to play ?

RedBlacks just beat the Stumps with Crum starting, and him plus 2 good backs (who is this Adeboboye guy?) leading a run heavy attack: I think they could ride the same formula to a win over the Kelly-less Argos.

[gilthethrill]

If the Argos stay from the penalties (I'm not convinced the majority weren't retaliatory, emotional in nature due to the George Jr incident Firday night), they should beat Ottawa. Despite beating Calgary, who may be improving but aren't there yet, Ottawa has issues in the Secondary and RT.
With the season still young, I don't want to call this a "Must Win Game", but it's as close as it comes to it.

[Scooter McCray]

Kelly was limited in practice today. I doubt he will play.

If he misses another game, why didn't they just put Kelly on the 6 game? Save money, which they could have spent on other players, retained other players. And saved themselves from answering the same legitimate weekly questions about his health and is he or isn't he going to play, especially when you're on a 3 game losing skid to start.

[paulwoods13]

Going on the six-game means you can't even practise until after four games have been played. They presumably felt he was capable of practising and would benefit from doing so. If he does end up missing the first six games, the decision to one-game him will bear scrutiny. However, we also need to ask whether the org would be willing to spend one-third of his salary on other parts of the team, while also paying him. That's an extra $200k that theoretically would be available, but is the org looking to spend above the cap the way they so clearly were in 2023? I'm dubious. Wouldn't surprise me if Pelley has tightened spending on all of MLSE's teams.

[Scooter McCray]

Going on the six-game means you can't even practise until after four games have been played. They presumably felt he was capable of practising and would benefit from doing so. If he does end up missing the first six games, the decision to one-game him will bear scrutiny. However, we also need to ask whether the org would be willing to spend one-third of his salary on other parts of the team, while also paying him. That's an extra $200k that theoretically would be available, but is the org looking to spend above the cap the way they so clearly were in 2023? I'm dubious. Wouldn't surprise me if Pelley has tightened spending on all of MLSE's teams.

MLSE is definitely in saving mode. No more Presidents (Ujiri will be next). But on the player side they still spend to their respective caps. And the $200,000 they could have saved on Kelly is such loose change to them, but very real money to the football team thay it could have kept some D-Line, or Amos, or Metchie, etc...
They loose to Ottawa, he is starting vs. Hamilton at home. So this is all speculation and with the benefit of hindsight. Given the serious injury and most in the winter did not expect him to be ready for the early part of the season, and the free agent challenges they were having again on the defence they could have gambled that $200K, and spread it around. To lose your entire D Line (the best one in the league) was not going to be easy to recover from early on.

[AngeloV]

Going on the six-game means you can't even practise until after four games have been played. They presumably felt he was capable of practising and would benefit from doing so. If he does end up missing the first six games, the decision to one-game him will bear scrutiny. However, we also need to ask whether the org would be willing to spend one-third of his salary on other parts of the team, while also paying him. That's an extra $200k that theoretically would be available, but is the org looking to spend above the cap the way they so clearly were in 2023? I'm dubious. Wouldn't surprise me if Pelley has tightened spending on all of MLSE's teams.

MLSE is definitely in saving mode. No more Presidents (Ujiri will be next). But on the player side they still spend to their respective caps. And the $200,000 they could have saved on Kelly is such loose change to them, but very real money to the football team thay it could have kept some D-Line, or Amos, or Metchie, etc...
They loose to Ottawa, he is starting vs. Hamilton at home. So this is all speculation and with the benefit of hindsight. Given the serious injury and most in the winter did not expect him to be ready for the early part of the season, and the free agent challenges they were having again on the defence they could have gambled that $200K, and spread it around. To lose your entire D Line (the best one in the league) was not going to be easy to recover from early on.

I don't think this had anything to do with spending more money on players. Kelly himself says he feels he can play. I believe this is strictly a safety decision by Dinwiddie to not put him at risk until he feels he can move around at 100%. They are evaluating this every day.

[paulwoods13]

I assume everyone here understands that there is no "saving" from putting someone on the 6-game. The $200k owing to Kelly for six games still gets paid to Kelly, but doesn't get charged against the cap. That means the team has the ability to spend an extra $200k without it being charged against the cap, but doing so would mean spending $400k in real dollars. If money is tight, who's to say MLSE would approve such an unbudgeted expenditure?

[AngeloV]

I assume everyone here understands that there is no "saving" from putting someone on the 6-game. The $200k owing to Kelly for six games still gets paid to Kelly, but doesn't get charged against the cap. That means the team has the ability to spend an extra $200k without it being charged against the cap, but doing so would mean spending $400k in real dollars. If money is tight, who's to say MLSE would approve such an unbudgeted expenditure?

No Paul, none of us understand that.