Argofans

RichK wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 5:42 pm

OV Argo wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 3:39 pm

RichK wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 3:00 pm It was great to see Murphy was pound-the-table high on Assibo-Dadzie, clearly they thought he was a better-value DB pick than Findlay. And we picked him in almost the same draft spot as Blackburn last year, and that worked out pretty well.

Outside the first two picks the braintrust seems big on value picks, under the radar guys who through injuries or whatever fell lower than they might have otherwise, I think a pretty sound strategy.

Recall the 2016 CFL draft, and I think Jim Barker was involved for the Argos - they were pounding the table, high-fiving and laughing cause they thought they had made such a steal of a great pick in the 2nd round with O-lineman DJ Sackey who was maybe not that highly rated, so they thought they were pulling this brilliant move on other CFL teams - did not pan-out as the guy only played a handful of games for the Argos the next few seasons. The first rounder that draft was big receiver Brian Jones - who did no pan out so well either in a not much of a CFL career. Jones was a highly touted prospect though - productive, big receiver and AUS MVP.

Examples of both a top rated prospect AND one of those supposed diamond / great find type picks - not panning out. That's the way she goes (sometimes - as Bubbles said to Ray). However, the number of those - who knew / guy did little in college ball - draft picks ever panning out as impact CFL players is miniscule, at best.

As I said earlier, Blackburn was an under the radar guy who may become a starter in his second year.

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 10:39 pm

RichK wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 5:42 pm

OV Argo wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 3:39 pm

Recall the 2016 CFL draft, and I think Jim Barker was involved for the Argos - they were pounding the table, high-fiving and laughing cause they thought they had made such a steal of a great pick in the 2nd round with O-lineman DJ Sackey who was maybe not that highly rated, so they thought they were pulling this brilliant move on other CFL teams - did not pan-out as the guy only played a handful of games for the Argos the next few seasons. The first rounder that draft was big receiver Brian Jones - who did no pan out so well either in a not much of a CFL career. Jones was a highly touted prospect though - productive, big receiver and AUS MVP.

Examples of both a top rated prospect AND one of those supposed diamond / great find type picks - not panning out. That's the way she goes (sometimes - as Bubbles said to Ray). However, the number of those - who knew / guy did little in college ball - draft picks ever panning out as impact CFL players is miniscule, at best.

As I said earlier, Blackburn was an under the radar guy who may become a starter in his second year.

Noticed a couple of other teams' cuts on the CFL transactions: EE released former 2nd round pick Jake Taylor - big DB with LB experience at Alberta - had a superb set of testing #s at his CFL Combine; 3 years of CFL roster /learning experience with the EE. And BC cut former draft pick Charlie Ringland - like Blackburn, a former CanWest all-star D-half; another very athletic tester at CFL Combine (where he got injured that forced him to miss a season).

Wonder if the Argos would look at bringing in either of these guys for a look at the safety job? And if not, why not ?

ARGO57 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 7:40 am

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 10:39 pm

RichK wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 5:42 pm

As I said earlier, Blackburn was an under the radar guy who may become a starter in his second year.

Noticed a couple of other teams' cuts on the CFL transactions: EE released former 2nd round pick Jake Taylor - big DB with LB experience at Alberta - had a superb set of testing #s at his CFL Combine; 3 years of CFL roster /learning experience with the EE. And BC cut former draft pick Charlie Ringland - like Blackburn, a former CanWest all-star D-half; another very athletic tester at CFL Combine (where he got injured that forced him to miss a season).

Wonder if the Argos would look at bringing in either of these guys for a look at the safety job? And if not, why not ?

Perhaps they feel they already have the solution on the current roster?

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:39 am There are rules about how many players can be brought to camp, and a new interpretation of the "non-counter" rule means guys drafted in a previous year who went back to school now have to be counted among the 85. It's likely why guys like Onyeka are being let go.

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 11:17 am

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:39 am There are rules about how many players can be brought to camp, and a new interpretation of the "non-counter" rule means guys drafted in a previous year who went back to school now have to be counted among the 85. It's likely why guys like Onyeka are being let go.

Gee, what a shocker, in the "radical" league.

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 3:22 pm

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 11:17 am

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:39 am There are rules about how many players can be brought to camp, and a new interpretation of the "non-counter" rule means guys drafted in a previous year who went back to school now have to be counted among the 85. It's likely why guys like Onyeka are being let go.

Gee, what a shocker, in the "radical" league.

The issue was collectively bargained, apparently, so if you want to be pissed off, save half of your anger for the players. Limiting the number of individuals in training camp -- currently 85 plus "non-counters," I believe -- has been in place for decades. If someone gets released before camp, any team can pick that player up -- IF they have an open spot among the 85 they are allowed. You might fantasize about inviting a dozen QBs to camp for a "real open competition," but that's not how it works.

ARGO57 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 7:40 am

OV Argo wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 10:39 pm

RichK wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 5:42 pm

As I said earlier, Blackburn was an under the radar guy who may become a starter in his second year.

Noticed a couple of other teams' cuts on the CFL transactions: EE released former 2nd round pick Jake Taylor - big DB with LB experience at Alberta - had a superb set of testing #s at his CFL Combine; 3 years of CFL roster /learning experience with the EE. And BC cut former draft pick Charlie Ringland - like Blackburn, a former CanWest all-star D-half; another very athletic tester at CFL Combine (where he got injured that forced him to miss a season).

Wonder if the Argos would look at bringing in either of these guys for a look at the safety job? And if not, why not ?

Perhaps they feel they already have the solution on the current roster?

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:39 am There are rules about how many players can be brought to camp, and a new interpretation of the "non-counter" rule means guys drafted in a previous year who went back to school now have to be counted among the 85. It's likely why guys like Onyeka are being let go.

bluto wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 9:10 am

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:39 am There are rules about how many players can be brought to camp, and a new interpretation of the "non-counter" rule means guys drafted in a previous year who went back to school now have to be counted among the 85. It's likely why guys like Onyeka are being let go.

Has to be that.

Bomber GM Kyle Walters is less than pleased about it too.
https://3downnation.com/2025/05/04/blue ... aft-picks/